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Gates, Obama, the Defense Budget and the Veto

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that what U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates unveiled yesterday could be the seeds of President Barack Obama's first veto. It goes like this:

A popular Republican SecDef provides political top-cover for a popular new Democratic President to push Congress to agree to most of the changes. A Democratically led Congress pushes back too hard and upholds too much of the status quo. Obama's administration then gets to paint them as a bunch of lawmakers protecting parochial interests and not sharing in the nation's sacrifice.

Meanwhile, Obama's war-fighting requests remains substantial and seperate, and as it will undoubtedly pass Congress, he can't be accused of abandoning the warfighter in combat. BUT, by vetoing the baseline bill Congress sends him as fiscally unfit, Obama gets to look like the un-Bush early in his presidency, especially against his own party (compared to George W. Bush who didn't rely on the veto until the opposition took over the Capitol). Besides, the public already despises Congress most of any branch of government, and Obama and Gates enjoy popularity second only to the First Lady.

All of this is highly hypothetical, and Washington has a wonderful way of surprising even the most seasoned observer. But right now, I see an Obama veto of a congressional baseline defense bill as the likeliest first significant rejection from this White House.

What do you think?

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Bill Sweetman wrote:
Cheers!
4/7/2009 9:58 AM CDT
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Bill Sweetman wrote:
(That was for the use of "warfighter")
4/7/2009 9:58 AM CDT
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Obamanite wrote:
Hello Michael. I think you are probably right. I've been deeply ambivalent about Gates' recommendations since he unveiled them yesterday. As with I imagine everyone else who cares about aviation, his decision to "complete" the F-22 program in favor of accelerating the F-35 seems a little, well, odd, given his protestations against programs going over budget and whose risk has not been sufficiently mitigated. We know exactly how much an F-22 costs these days (less than the F-35), we know what it can do. The same cannot be said for the F-35. I only hope that the F-22 has not become a victim of LM's marketing success (in favor of the F-35) at the expense of sacrificing air supremacy, which is a goal the Pentagon has evidently abandoned. The F-35 had better be every damned bit as good as LM claims or we are, how do you say? Oh, yes: screwed.

At any rate, sorry about the rant, but back to that veto thing. Yes, I believe you are right. Congress will try to fund 20 F-22s and that will either draw a veto threat or occasion an actual veto. Despite my username, chosen in the heat of the last election, I am not lock-step with Obama on everything. And one of the areas where I disagree with him is this notion that we fund our military on the basis of best-case scenarios regarding the likes of Russia, China, Iran and N. Korea. He had better be as good as he thinks he is on the diplomatic front because if he's not, he's going to seriously regret having stopped production of a plane every potential adversary rightly fears. Along with his incredibly naive goal of "eliminating" nuclear weapons (yeah, right), it's as if this man didn't learn a thing about MAD, the Cold War and deterrence in general. Like it or not, being armed to the teeth and being vastly superior to your potential enemies PREVENTS wars, it doesn't cause them. (What causes them is idiotic Presidents who pick on weaklings like Iraq to send a "message" to the rest of the region that, well, we are nothing but bullies who only pick on the weak kids in the playground). Why such an evidently brilliant man doesn't seem to get such a simple, yet elegant and effective policy stance like deterrence is beyond me. I fear the Russian and Chinese militaries are laughing themselves silly right about now...

I fear that with Obama, we may have gotten someone with Churchill's intellect but Chamberlain's instincts...

And damn my username. I feel like the idiot who tattoos his girlfriend's name on his arm. Now, anyone know how I can get rid of it???
4/7/2009 10:55 AM CDT
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BDF wrote:
I'm a little skeptical that one program will draw a veto. Now if several killed programs are restore by congress then that'd probably be a "just cause" for a veto. I'm also a little skeptical that this who process is quite as contrived as Michael is suggesting. IMO they're low balling congress.
4/7/2009 11:06 AM CDT
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Bobbymike wrote:
Ares post title - Bill Sweetman enters rehab is heard mumbling "warfighter, cold war weapons, the war we're in, asymetrical threats". Bill, was I right about "use of language or what" like a broken watch twice a day, baby.

My prediction is that Obama may accomplish the impossible, unite congressional democrats and republicans against this madness of a budget!

Sometimes at night I shut off my computer and imagine I am Sec of Defense and was given the $787 billion in stimulas to spend on reset and modernization. A guy can dream can't he?
4/7/2009 11:35 AM CDT
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Loader2088 wrote:
Obamanite, my man! Welcome to the cold light of day. Maybe ARES will let you change your username to "Bushnite" or something. :-)

Regarding "warfighter" what is wrong with the ancient english word "warrior?" I've often wondered.
4/7/2009 12:39 PM CDT
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DensityDuck wrote:
You write: "Obama's administration then gets to paint them as a bunch of lawmakers protecting parochial interests and not sharing in the nation's sacrifice."

Gates, during post-speech Q&A: "My hope is that, as we have tried to do here in this building, that the members of Congress will rise above parochial interests and consider what is in the best interest of the nation as a whole."
4/7/2009 3:08 PM CDT
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DensityDuck wrote:
Loader2088: Well, a "warrior" is someone whose whole life is war; someone who not only is willing to fight, but in fact would rather fight than not. "warfighter", on the other hand, is more like "firefighter"--someone whose job is to deal with war and finish it up as quickly as possible. A warfighter doesn't WANT to fight war--it's just what they do, and if they spent their entire career without being in one single war that would be okay.
4/7/2009 3:10 PM CDT
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Loader2088 wrote:
Thanks for the "clarification" Mr. Duck. I can't say I see much of a distinction there. As someone who spent my career as a firefighter, I must say there was never a word like "fireior" only the politically incorrect "fireman."
4/7/2009 3:18 PM CDT
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DensityDuck wrote:
The distinction is clear. Warriors prefer war. Warfighters prefer no war.
4/7/2009 4:29 PM CDT
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