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Bell's HTR: Tiltwing + Rotors = ???

Thanks to sharp-eyed Steve Trimble at the Quad-A show, and his The Dew Line blog, we now know about Bell Helicopter's Hybrid Tandem Rotor (HTR) concept.

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Concept: Bell

According to Steve's interview with Bell's exec VP for government programs Robert Kennedy, the HTR could achieve a forward speed of 225kt, compared with around 170kt for a conventional helicopter and more than 300kt for the V-22 tiltrotor.

Exactly how it works is not clear. To me, it looks like a compound - the wingtip engines providing thrust as well as driving the rotors. So in forward flight, the wing would offload the rotors and allow the machine to reach higher speed before retreating-blade stall sets in.

[UPDATE - Steve now tells me the engines purely drive the rotors, V-22-style, so that means the rotors have to provide all the thrust. Which makes the concept even more baffling to me.]

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Concept: Bell

What I can't work out is quite what happens on takeoff and landing. Apparently the wing tilts by 25 degrees and it looks like the rotors tilt forward at the same time, to stay essentially flat. My best guess is tilting the wing up reduces download in the hover, and increases lift in STOL operation. In vertical flight most of the power would go to the rotors, which would work like a conventional helicopter's.

This is speculation, of course. I suppose I will just have to ask Bell...meanwhile I'm hoping there is a rotorhead out there who can tell us how it works.

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why not just buy a tilt rotor.....
5/8/2009 4:00 PM CDT
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If you don't need to go 300kt+ those gimballed proprotors are heavy and complex - also tiltrotors are not as good at hovering as helicopters because the rotors also have be propellers, which means a higher disc loading (and variable-diameter tiltrotors are even more complicated)
5/8/2009 4:17 PM CDT
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John S wrote:
I believe that the angle relationship between the rotor masthead and the wing remains fixed, reducing complexity. The wing tilts back 25 degrees (or so, I'm using your number) and the rotor disc is parallel to the ground.

As the aircraft enters forward flight, the wing is lowered, and as a result the rotors tilt 25 degrees forward, providing thrust and lift, and some lift is also provided by the wing. Counter rotating rotors couteract any retreating blade stall problem

My question is how does the craft recover from vortes ring state during high rate of descent. The V-22 can simply "blip" the nacelles momentarily to bite into clean air. This design cannot.
5/8/2009 5:26 PM CDT
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Marcase wrote:
More of an autogyro than a real 'copter. Interesting concept.
5/8/2009 5:41 PM CDT
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Solomon wrote:
this looks more like a mini XC-142...i always thought that a return to that tech might work for the theater lifter....looks like it might be used but just on a smaller scale...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTV_XC-142
5/8/2009 9:22 PM CDT
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Geogen wrote:
Good post, John S. I don't know, I have to like support this concept from the info available on first look. Maybe hovering will be passé in another 10 yrs? And 300 knts + 'Very' STOL prop/rotor will be a nouveau doctrine? More work to come, for sure.

Keep us posted.
5/8/2009 9:56 PM CDT
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Bill Sweetman wrote:
Eurocopter has planted a mole in Bell's advanced design department. For the past 25 years the US has invested billions in tilt-rotors and stealth helicopters, and has so far managed to field only a handful of specialized operational vehicles. This looks like a lot of complexity for a minimal performance gain... From a practical, tactical viewpoint, how much is that little bit of extra speed worth over a good conventional helicopter.
5/9/2009 11:00 AM CDT
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By Geore, I think he's got it - John S, that is. Whn I look again at the lower picture of the attack variant in forward flight, I can see the rotor discs are tilted forward. And, a bit like the X2, the counter-rotating rotors do get over the retreating-blade stall issue. Thanks!
5/9/2009 1:57 PM CDT
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I don't understand the no retreating blade stall comment...wouldn't each individual rotor still have the same problem?

also, why would a hydraulically pivoting wing be any less complex than a hydraulically pivoting nacelle?

and last but certainly not least, how does this thing autorotate any better than a tiltrotor?
5/9/2009 2:45 PM CDT
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Solomon wrote:
so to simplify, this thing is a combi tilt rotor/ tilt wing contraption?
5/9/2009 5:29 PM CDT
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