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Northrop Grumman's NGB X-Posed

Just released - the design patent on Northrop Grumman's Next Generation Bomber concept.

 

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Details:  as expected, it looks smaller than a B-2. Four engines make life easier for the signatures group, because the smaller inlet duct can achieve the required radar-blocking curvature in a lesser length. Most likely, a single weapon bay on the centerline. And, as expected, a variation on the Northrop Grumman "cranked kite" planform family. And, overall, not too far from the concept that Jozef Gatial produced for us last year:

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Jozef Gatial for DTI

No wonder I was getting some odd looks from Northrop Grumman people. Another observation:  some of the names on the patent are relative newcomers, this being their first patent for the company. The patent was filed at the end of 2007 - just before Northrop Grumman reported a major contract win, probably associated with the NGB project. For more background to the bomber project, start here.

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ghemago wrote:
I wonder...
1) what was patentable in that general design...
2) why to patent something that should be kept in most secrecy
3/20/2009 7:17 AM CDT
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Bill Sweetman wrote:
Good questions. It's an "ornamental design" patent (like you'd use for the Bugatti or RR radiator grill) and I have never heard of one of those being successfully defended. And with a shape like that, the magic is in the CFD that produces it, and in developing the tools that let you scale it up and down and adapt to different missions, which is a very big advance for flying wings in general.
As for the secrecy, I think this could be a signal that it will not prevail for long.
3/20/2009 7:44 AM CDT
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Corvan wrote:
Awesome!
3/20/2009 10:29 AM CDT
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phantom works wrote:
um.....if it was supposed to be a secret you wouldn't be seeing it on the www.
3/20/2009 10:42 AM CDT
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Bobbymike wrote:
The Missile Defense Organization's Advanced Concepts Group performed a Conops Study of mating Patriot PAC-3 and Thaad onto an F-15 to explore boost phase intercept.

I always thought it would make sense to put these weapons on a super stealthly platform that could creep close to borders thereby extending the intercept range of carried missiles as far inland as possible.
3/20/2009 1:11 PM CDT
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Corvan wrote:
For that to be possible Bobbymike the NGB would need to be in reality a huge fighter/bomber...

I sure hope it is!!
3/20/2009 4:31 PM CDT
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redstone wrote:
..... mating Patriot PAC-3 and Thaad onto an F-15 .....

The F-15? ..... too small for the Thaad .....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Wfm_thaad_diagram.svg/790px-Wfm_thaad_diagram.svg.png

Surely a larger, and stealthier, platform, as you stated, could be more suitable .....
3/21/2009 3:04 PM CDT
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sferrin wrote:
NCADE is what you'd want to use. PAC-3 or THAAD are big enough that they'd dominate the sortie. NCADE is small enough you could stick one or two on every fighter sortie like they do with AIM-120s "just in case" without noticably impacting the effectivness of the primary mission.
3/21/2009 10:44 PM CDT
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Geogen wrote:
redstone, the THAAD is only about .5 m longer than the ASAT previously launched from F-15. The THAAD could be mated, surely (though some would propose a couple unboosted SM-2 IIIB launched internally from an FB-22)...

But I'm in the camp sferrin defends, i.e., favoring NCADE over the PAC-3 variant. Besides, NCADE is F-22/F-35 internally carried, while wing-mounted PAC-3 would alter the calculus some.

Re: NGB... it should absolutely be designed per spec, around carrying a single 'Massive Ordnance Penatrator' size munition, otherwise 50% of it's deterrence would be forfeited IMO, and it would hence be more logical to go with higher performance, operationally flexible, econo FB- alternative IMHO (as others have voiced).
3/21/2009 11:26 PM CDT
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Geogen wrote:
p.s., They already have an adaptable ISR platform today which can further be upgraded in future? It's called global hawk.

3/21/2009 11:37 PM CDT
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